Of course sometimes I'm just an idiot. Here's obviously what happened in my preceeding post. I'm embarassed it wasn't more obvious; I'm used to Microsoft spin and should've seen it.

MS said, "We're not shipping our JVM with XP. If the user needs to have it (eg, applets in IE) we'll prompt them to download it, but we're not going to guarantee Java programmers they've got our VM to fall back on."

To which Sun replies, "Heck no. You're putting the VM in the OS. It's not an optional component. You don't get to download it on demand."

That makes more sense.