title: Put the knife down and take a green herb, dude. |
descrip: One feller's views on the state of everyday computer science & its application (and now, OTHER STUFF) who isn't rich enough to shell out for www.myfreakinfirst-andlast-name.com Using 89% of the same design the blog had in 2001. |
FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY!!!
Back-up your data and, when you bike, always wear white. As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases. Affiliate links in green. |
|
Thursday, May 24, 2007 | |
I caught this from a link on the Bad Vista! site, after my bimonthly stumbling around the gnu.org site for fun. Groklaw - Burning Issues With Vista, by Richard Rasker - Updated: The options are clear: the Mastered format is readable on any computer, the Live File System format only on Windows computers -- and even then, it depends on the chosen version (via "“Versie wijzigen”) of Live File System, as the following screen shots show:Surely this can't be true, that by default all Vista machines will be burning CDs that can only be read by Windows machines, can it? Could Win2k read this Live File System? In the past, like with the Sony rootkit on some CDs, people were content to institute file protections on Windows only, and have other OSes continue to rip away. I wonder if that wouldn't be the case here. Here's a bit from the fellow's sum: I tried reading LFS format media on my Linux systems but failed, even though I installed udftools. Yes, K3b (a great Linux burning tool) could tell me that there was data on the disks, but it was unable to show the actual data itself. All other tools failed with the error message that the disk couldn't be mounted.Let me make clear this guy is a Linux zealot. Throughout the groklaw post, he's wasting our time slamming the "Start" button in Windows, etc. He's burning [well, trying to burn] a file about Linux with Vista whose icon has Tux on it. This isn't exactly an unbiased report. When at the conclusion of the first day he's determined Vista can't burn anything, the machine's owner is able to, the next day, burn the files without a problem. Sketchy. Still, the postscript possibly has more useful information. Postscript: After reading some feedback to the article, I fired up the Vista box once more, testing some things posted. What I find is that the two oldest UDF versions (1.50 and 2.00) indeed can be read by Linux -- but only if udftools are installed on the Linux system, which isn't the case by default. This option also suffers from a similar problem as the Mastered format, i.e., it can't be set as the default choice and must thus be selected consciously every single time.Let's assume, then, that some day in the near future we'll probably be able to read these disks in Linux with an updated version of udftools. Let's say that day is now. Later in the update... But if LFS is in fact UDF, why couldn't my Linux boxes read the disks? Well, this was due to sloppiness on my part, a lack of proper UDF support in Linux, and my hardware setup.Does any of this excuse Microsoft? Absolutely not. The post is an interesting read for understanding how choices in an OS can put up barriers to entry for other players, like software and hardware vendors. It's just that, as written, the guy is doing exactly the power play he's accusing MS of performing! Read the first quote I've put into this post, that remains in his post, unedited or qualified. The compare with what we find in the last paragraph of this huge post... So in this case, it's actually Linux that's lagging in development; Microsoft isn't really to blame, at least as far as lock-in is concerned – although more accurate information on the nature of “Live File System” could have prevented quite a bit of trouble and confusion. Also, it depends on the CD or DVD device whether a UDF formatted disk can be used or not. Especially older CD-ROM players may not be UDF-compatible. (emph mine)In some ways, that's too large a backtrack. Linux isn't "lagging" so much as Microsoft is forcing one to upgrade, which is going to leave a nontrivial number of Granny Smiths with boxes that won't read the discs. I'm assuming UDF has no ISO 9660 (iirc) backwards compatibility. Microsoft is to blame, not for lock-in, but for forced upgrades, which is, in a sense, the same thing. (This is not unlike yesterday's rant on the proposed end of Firefox support for OS X 10.3.) Let's face it -- MS is going to install updates to Vista, usually automatically, that'll keep their UDF burning functions ahead of the versions installed on Linux and likely OS X by default. Replacing a relatively universal standard with one of [I assume] likely your own making isn't progress. I'm betting UDF/LFS discs never work on my Mac running OS 9. That's a power play. I just get tired of the Linux hyperbole. posted by ruffin at 5/24/2007 09:59:00 AM |
|
| |
MarkUpDown is the best Markdown editor for professionals on Windows 10. It includes two-pane live preview, in-app uploads to imgur for image hosting, and MultiMarkdown table support. Features you won't find anywhere else include...
You've wasted more than $15 of your time looking for a great Markdown editor. Stop looking. MarkUpDown is the app you're looking for. Learn more or head over to the 'Store now! |
![]() |
|
|