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Saturday, March 13, 2021 | |
Over the last month or so, I've really fallen down a rabbit hole on the state of the art in prescription eyeglasses. It's amazing how deep a hole it is. I can't tell how much is marketing and how much represents real improvements in the state of the art, but gee willikers things have changed since I started going to America's Best and ordering my extra eyes for $8 a pop online. (At some point in there I became a presbyop too, which is why I've finally had to leave the world of super-cheap, single-vision lenses. That said, I still wear single "intermediate" vision lenses now when I'm programming, as I've talked about, before.) I'm going to dump something like a real weblog here, showing lots of URLs I've visited during my fall down the hole with a little commentary. But it's not going to be a nice, processed dump of info. It's going to be a raw-ish log. You know, unlike the rest of the stuff I post here. :eye-roll: But let's frame (dang. no pun intended) this dump with a video between an "optician educator" from OpticianWorks (an online training program funded, it appears, by a optical lab called Laramy-K) and a marketer from IOT, a lens manufacturer. Though they're talking about single vision lenses, it's a great intro to how the state of the art has changed from quarter-diopter blanks to "personalized" free form lenses. Good freakin heavens, that's complicated. Keep in mind that's all about single-vision lenses, the simplest lenses there are. Even with single vision lenses, with this newfangled freeform stuff they're trying to shape the front and back of your lens in the context of your selected frame (and your pupil distance and height and...) to make sure every angle, not just the one centered precisely on your pupil, has the widest cone of perfect vision. Here's some stuff grabbed from their marketing video that demonstrates the concept reasonably well, normal curve (old style) lens on left, where light enters in different places and correspondingly hits different parts of your eye, and freeform custom on right (note the red line on the inside that's not a normal/smooth curve; click the image for a larger version): Though I am somewhat suspicious of how well they deliver -- I think they must be saying that this formula for a lens will, when off-center, always produce a lens experience that's minus diopters from the "perfect" sight point, allowing your eye to fix the difference, rather than having the change from perfect fall into positive diopter differences that your eye can't (apparently?) fix -- I'd buy that there's got to be some benefit from a perfectly customized lens. So now, in 2020 (so much better a number than 2021 for talking sight, if absolutely nothing else), instead of taking a perfectly normal curve of a lens and finding which matches your eye best, they take a lens that's close to your prescription and essentially CNC mill it to make it best fit your eye and glasses frame, whatever that takes.
When you start talking about "digital free-form" progressives, a type of lens that even before CNC style milling was already a long ways away from a normally curved lens, you can see how much space there is for "innovation" -- well, and snake oil sales. The really flooring part of it for me is, well, I mean, progressive lenses are for one very specific subset of the population: People who wear glasses and are over 40. If you don't wear glasses and you're over 40, you just grab readers from Walmart. Then the market gets further striated: People who wear glasses and are over 40 who work at a computer, because normal progressives are essentially the same as bifocals: they provide distance vision (driving, talking to others) and close vision (reading), not intermediate (hello, computer monitor). The intermediate vision spot in a standard progressive is about keyhole sized. It's possible to see your monitor, but it's not sustainable for daily work. And so there's a whole sub-industry catering to "occupational progressives" for the office that we'll talk about, below. It's a large market, I'm sure, but the attention it's getting still seems disproportional. You can bet, I think, an interest in using progressive lenses (much less progressive office lenses) tracks reasonably well to a customer with money. That is, if you're old and worried about your eyesight enough to buy a highly specialized pair of glasses, not to mention that you might also be vain enough to want to avoid bifocals or switching glasses to see your monitor at all costs (bifocals and a pair of single-vision computer glasses really do work great, btw), you must correlate pretty strongly with having a lot of expendable income. And, of course, IOT, at least, is taking that progressive customization and putting it on a single-vision lens. So their market is potentially much larger -- anybody that wears glasses and is willing to drop major coin for those last few baby steps towards perfect vision. Anyhow, let the dump proper begin: More on free form lens machining:
Here's a good explanation of free-form and digital lenses. The quick distinction:
Then they explain that digital simply means not a regular curve and free-form means "complex back surface curves" that can be "made to 0.01 diopters of accuracy". That site (RLab) also does custom bifocals, which it's starting to seem like most independent labs do. And here's a second source on free-form vs. digital:
And from that second source, an interesting distinction on your prescription:
Your prescription in diopters is nearly a modernist anachronism. My guess: I think "digital" must mean "cut by a computer", similar to how CNC literally means "computer numerical control". It's the same meaning here. And free-form means the inside of the lens isn't a normal curve, afaict. It would be hard to cut that precisely on the inside of your lens without a CNC milling device, so all free-form is also digital. Also interesting from the same source (keep in mind this was written in 2014):
BrandsWhich brings us to trying to learn more about brands. Everyone seemingly has their own version of the special progressive snowflake-lenses-just-for-you sauce. The best overview I've found to date (though with substandard actual reviews) of them all is easily this one from Progressive-Glasses.com. Though it's called "Who Makes the Best Progressive Lenses? The Big Comparison", the best part, far and away, is the list of different brands and lens types he includes, each linking to a more in-depth description of the offerings. From progressive-glasses.com:
And which does he say is the best? Well, he doesn't.
That's it. That's pretty much his conclusion. Not, "given that they're pretty much the same, I say get the cheapest," or, "These three offer the best coatings, so if you value scratch-proof lenses" or whatever. Nothing. Just, "Yep, they're lenses. Hope you trust your optician!" Speaking of, wow, the prices! Here's a Varilux listing at over $600 but then here's the same lens, afaict, for $350. Over here, they're $300. It's worse than buying a used car. I can't even tell for sure if those are single lens or left-and-right lens prices. Lens typesHere are a few useful progressive and bifocal movies.
Bifocal lingo from the OpticianWorks prep for ABO study guide:
My bifocals from Zenni are 25mm. Here's a decent description of the difference between hard and soft progressives -- hard gives clearer vision for a wider corridor in the middle but changes to the "optical swamp" (see below) very quickly. Soft gives less stark a switch to craptastic vision, but there's a narrower clear corridor. And here's a video from another source that shows how bifocals are made. There are lots of videos on this, but this one, from Optometry with Tarik, has the best diagrams I've found to date -- though his description and commentary is possibly less dependable. Note: I'm pretty sure when he says executives are made as one-pieces he's wrong. Executive bifocals are literally two lenses stuck together. Related...
Occupational lensesThis page has a good run-down (with images!) on the standard "occupational lens" uses. It seems like "occupational" mostly is there to make the distinction, "This is for work only, not for driving."
But the most popular is the computer progressive. Normal progressives stink for intermediate vision, and there are many sources that will happily tell you progressives aren't for sustained office use, like this page at Zeiss. Zenni has a good review of the difference between standard progressives and two versions of office progressives. One point to note: Zenni's progressive image shows close and intermediate zones. Essilor's shows a tiny distance zone too. I'm not sure if that's an actual functional difference or not. (I did order some Zenni intermediate distance workspace progressives to find out.) This page from Vision Ease, another lens manufacturer, has three different office lens choices striated by peak distances, 6, 12, and 20 feet. Note how width shrinks as distance increases. Here's Nikon's version. And here's a retailer with a description of Essilor's specialized progressives, including an "anti-fatigue" progressives that gives just a little ADD at the bottom. I think the IOT video I start this post with talks about that as a "baby-progressive" or "pre-progressive". I ran into this post on optiboard that runs through a few computer lens brands. Progressive-glasses.com talks about computer progressives here. He also has a nice worksheet asking what you need to see in your office and how far away each is. This should kinda determine if you can use "close progressives" or "intermediate progressives". Optical Labs in the USI've found a few US based custom labs, though it appears you've got to go through a regular glasses shop to buy them, which introduces the middle-man problem. I hate that. I wish you could get some prices directly like you give or take can with Zenni and know what the glasses are really going for. I mean, I'd pay a good shop to size me and fit the frames when they come if I could know what that service cost outside of the frames and lenses. That complaint out of the way, each lab really does try to sell this as a custom-created lens. They're pitching different frames depending on your head size and eye placement and at least ostensibly are making progressives that maximize that combination of eye, frame, and size. One, Laramy-K, has this "education" guy who has an entire site and course for people who want to become opticians and pass the American Board of Opticianry (ABO) certification test. Luckily he makes tons of stuff available on YouTube for free, so if you're curious for some free lens larnin', it's a good source -- especially this doc for ABO test prep, though the word find was... unexpected. Designs for Vision on Long Island: Mostly dental telescopes for looking at teeth, I think, but also, for instance, highly customizable executive bifocals, mostly for "high ADD" needs on the bottom, but it sounds like they can do most anything... and with perhaps a little more practiced a hand than the outsider artwork by our buddy at OpticianWorks. Here's what Designs for Vision claims:
That's essentially full bifocal customization. Labels: Other Stuff, presbyopia posted by ruffin at 3/13/2021 10:06:00 AM |
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